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Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra
1999-2000 Season Preview Program


Michael Barone, host of the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra broadcasts, talks with SPCO Music Director Hugh Wolff about the new concert season, Wolff's last year with the orchestra.

 

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BARONE: We are here to celebrate a new season of concerts by the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra, but there's a touch of wistfulness in the air since this will be the last season of our young collegial music director, Hugh Wolff. But we're not saying good-bye yet, but rather "hello" to the exciting and new concert and broadcast season that is about to begin. So, Hugh, what have you got up your sleeve for us this year? Do you plan a season differently knowing it will be your last?

WOLFF: A little bit - in one's mind is the notion that you'd like to do some big things that you've never done before it's too late. For example, the way the season opens with Jean-Philippe Rameau's Suite from Les Boréades and ends with Beethoven's Ninth, a piece the orchestra really has never attempted. It's a grand experiment for me as a last concert.

BARONE:We'll get to Beethoven a little later - but what about Rameau caught your fancy?

WOLFF: I had a conversation with Nick McGegan, our new Baroque Series director, who's done quite a bit of work with Rameau and it's his edition of Les Boréades that we'll be performing. I think this piece has only come to light in this last generation - his last opera, and Nick's done a lot of work to realize it for this orchestra.

BARONE: Rameau seems to be almost the most modern of Baroque composers in that he uses the orchestra for fantastic effects beyond what Bach does. Bach's effects are technical, Rameau's are sonorous.

WOLFF: Rameau made the transition from Baroque to Classical style and in this dance music from Les Boréades there's very little Baroque counterpoint. There are clarinets, which Bach never used, and the use of improvised percussion that Nick recommended give this music a real kind of pizzazz and swing that you don't identify with the more intellectual Baroque music from the German composers.

Listen - RAMEAU: Overture, The Orchestral Suite from Naïs
(How to Listen)

Guest Artists

BARONE: Hugh, at the end of September your soloist will be that remarkable young violinist Hilary Hahn, who played for us last season so spectacularly. A wise decision to have a return engagement - this woman is on her way.

WOLFF: I was absolutely stunned and delighted to collaborate with her. What a wonderful artist and very special person - very young but very mature, bubbling with ideas. She'll be playing two concertos - Barber's Violin Concerto, and a concerto written by Edgar Meyer, the double bass player with whom we've been collaborating with a little bit on the other concert. And then both pieces will be committed to disc for posterity.

BARONE: Edgar Meyer is a composer who is rather extravagantly featured in Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra activity this season. He'll be a familiar name to SPCO attendees this coming season. Hugh, a little bit of background on him. He was a string bass player for a while who figured there was more to the instrument than the usual bass repertoire.

WOLFF: He's an extraordinary virtuoso on the double bass, both classical and crossover in country, bluegrass, and jazz - and has a prolific recording career in all these genres. We've actually not presented him publicly here in the Twin Cities, but we've been collaborating quietly with him in another recording project and finally the local audience gets to hear what a talent he is. He's an absolutely terrific guy to spend time with - clever, witty, fun and relaxed, and brings all the atmosphere of a Nashville born country player and all the extraordinary gifts of a virtuoso.

Listen - MEYER: "Pickles," from Appalachia Waltz
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BARONE: I have to smile when I look at some of the new repertoire you'll be playing this season, including two works by Michael Daugherty, one of them called "Tombeau de Liberace." I can just imagine what that's going to be like.

WOLFF: This is a guy with a major-league sense of humor. We did one little piece of his called "Dead Elvis" a few years ago - a hilarious piece where Chris Ullery, our principal bassoonist, got to dress up in a full Elvis costume. And this is a piece that Christopher O'Riley will play with us - he's a wonderful showman and loves to get into this kind of theatrical presentation. Later on in the year we're doing a world premiere called "Sunset Strip."

BARONE: At the end of October Gil Shaham is coming to play the Beethoven Violin Concerto, and you're going to perform two recent works by composers that you may know personally. There's a world premiere of a new piece by Daniel Godfrey, plus a chamber piece by the young British composer Nathan Currier.

WOLFF: Yes, I have seized the opportunity in my final year to showcase some composers whose works I've loved and known. Daniel Godfrey did a special concert with us at the Walker Art Gallery, and I liked it very much so I commissioned him to write a new work. Nathan Currier is someone I've been aware of for quite a few years - a friend of mine out of Juilliard. This is a work he wrote probably 10 years ago when he was still a student - a wonderful evocative work for about 20 musicians with accordion.

Listen - CURRIER: Slow Movement from A Sambuca Sonata
(How to Listen)


BARONE: Nick McGegan, music director of the Baroque Series, will be coming to town in November, bringing with him soprano Dominique LaBelle for a program of works by Bach and Händel.

WOLFF: The Baroque Series is looking to Bach this season and the next season. The year 2000 is the 250th anniversary of Bach's death and so every program on the Baroque series has some Bach or relative of Bach. We'll continue that through the following season and cover all the Brandenburg Concertos and all the Suites in the course of two seasons.

BARONE: In February 2000 you're going to be learning some choral music of Arvo Pärt and presenting the Bach Magnificat in concert with it. A nice program-an old and new look at this particular liturgical celebration.

WOLFF: I just think the combination is winning and the Baroque audience warmed to the notion of a composer like Pärt. The Dale Warland Singers have specialized in Pärt, and the idea of doing the little a cappella Magnificat of Pärt and then the grand and glorious Magnificat of Bach on the same program was irresistible to me.

Listen - PÄRT: Magnificat
(How to Listen)


BARONE: Audiences will certainly get their money's worth when the Eroica Trio comes to town to play Beethoven's Triple Concerto. This is a group which has made quite a name for itself-getting into all of the places where chamber musicians and classical musicians rarely get: the main media, television, magazine covers . . .

WOLFF: Three lovely young ladies and terrific virtuosos. There aren't so many trios around these days and we haven't done the Triple Concerto in a long, long time, so it seemed like a wonderful and logical pairing. They appeared with the Schubert Club and wowed the Twin Cities.

BARONE: And they've also been on our Saint Paul Sunday broadcast with Bill McGlaughlin, so it's going to be like old-home week.

Listen - GERSHWIN: Prelude #3 from Three Preludes (arr. Penaforte)
(How to Listen)

Modern Conducting

BARONE: Talk to me about how it is that one comes to be music director of an organization and then chooses to move on from it. In the old days with conductors like George Szell at Cleveland, it was kind of like a marriage. Marriage was forever and these days marriages are changed.

Listen - Wolff on the life of a modern conductor - (How to Listen)

WOLFF: It was a very unequal kind of relationship, and it could survive over 25 years because of the amount of authority vested in the conductor and the amount of intimidation possible. I'm not so sure the end result was all that healthy for the musicians - although the quality of the performances was undeniable. But a lot of musicians who lived through it will tell you it was no picnic to be playing for someone like Szell day in and day out. He was extremely demanding and his power was unlimited. His behavior was sometimes ruthless. It's a different dynamic today and frankly I'm glad it is. I'm not the kind of person that would have thrived in a dictatorial arrangement. I probably never would have become a conductor if that was what was expected. I do think in today's world when music is disseminated worldwide instantaneously, and conductors travel more readily, that it's possible and beneficial for everyone that there be music directors and guest conductors, and a tremendous amount of variety for the subscribers and for the musicians themselves.

BARONE: So you'll probably go on, become very famous with another orchestra and we'll have a hard time getting you back as a guest conductor.

WOLFF: No, certainly not!

Beethoven's Ninth Symphony

BARONE: You're going to end your tenure as music director officially in May with a concert that concludes with Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 - the "Choral" Symphony, which I expect that the original founders of the chamber orchestra would have thought an impossibility.

Listen - Wolff on performing Beethoven's 9th - (How to Listen)

WOLFF: Well, perhaps this is folly but it's significant in two ways. First, it completes the cycle of nine Beethoven Symphonies in my tenure. The orchestra had never done No. 7, I think they'd done No. 3 once and maybe No. 6 once. They had never done the 9th when I came here, and if you had asked me 10 years ago if the SPCO should play Beethoven's 9th symphony, I probably would have said no.

But an experiment early on with the Missa Solemnis and the Schubert 9th led me to think this was possible and would be fun and illuminating. Particularly the Missa Solemnis, where I have been frustrated with forces in large performances by the density of sound - how the textures get clotted and the choir gets obliterated. So you have an even bigger choir and everybody's shouting at the top of their lungs. I've done the piece a lot with big orchestras and choirs and there are huge obstacles to getting clarity and lightness and brilliance and the propulsion of the last movement. You can certainly get the decibels but when you've got trombones and cellos and double basses all playing the same thing that the choir basses are trying to sing, you have a problem. And with the chamber orchestra I don't think you'll have that problem to that degree.

I think it will be illuminating and fun to hear it that texture and certainly for me and the chamber orchestra musicians, what a hoot it will be to finally get to play this music! I'm sure many of them have played, but for us to do it on our home stage and look at it fresh together, it's going to be a lot of fun.

Listen - BEETHOVEN: Symphony No. 9 in d minor
(How to Listen)

Hugh's Future Plans

BARONE: When Beethoven's 9th symphony comes to an end in the last concert in May I will both be rejoicing at the brilliance of music we will be hearing, but also shedding a few tears in dismay that you will be leaving us. What's in the plan?

Listen - Wolff on his future plans - (How to Listen)

WOLFF: I have a position in Frankfurt [with the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra] and a lot of responsibility, and I also have three sons and I spend too much time trying to do too many things. In a way for the last three seasons running two orchestras, Frankfurt and St. Paul, has been too much. My oldest son is ten, and I figure I have 7 more years and then he's out of the house. So there's a period now in which my focus will be a little less on the manic career jetting-all-over-the-world. As someone said to me recently, "If you don't listen to your children while they're young, they won't listen to you when they're older," and now is my chance to be slowing down. I'm middle-aged and have to admit it, so it's time to have things in my life organized in a slightly different way I think.

BARONE: So the future is . . . guest conducting?

WOLFF: The guest conducting I'm doing is now much more in Europe than in the States. The work I've done in Frankfurt has suddenly made me well-known in Germany where I was not known at all. It's not something I particularly sought but it means that invitations are coming in, and we may settle there for a while and see what happens. But the total number of concerts and trips on jet airplanes is going to go down for a while and stay down for a while.

BARONE: But that's then and this is now, the beginning of this SPCO season for 1999-2000. . . . A lot of wonderful music to look forward to, many fine experiences and many opportunities to hear you and this great orchestra together. That should keep us all happy over the coming months don't you think?

WOLFF: Yes and I hope that people don't feel that this is saying goodbye. I've spent a great portion of my life here. I've done more concerts with this orchestra than any other orchestra in the world. This will always be very very close to me and my heart, and hopefully I'll be back in the Twin Cities on occasion and greet the orchestra and audience in the future as well.

BARONE: And the studio door here will always be open for you.

WOLFF: Thank you.

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